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 Fun with Russian Scammers :)  26th Oct '07 11:44 PM

This just landed in my inbox from Tatyana (from email address, robertdog#####.freeserve.co.uk)

Hello man!
Write to you the woman from Russia. My name Tatyana to me of 26 years!
I to want to find the man for serious the relation in your country.
I am ready for creation family and to want it. I cannot find the man in Russia for myself because it very difficultly in Russia.
It is a lot of men in Russia to drink alcohol much it to not like I. I to want to create family and to live in your country because the government to care of people, I to want to live and be sure in the future.
In Russia it is not possible to live easy.
I to tell about myself.
I live in city Yoshkar-Ola it is 1000 km from capital Russia Moscow.
My city small and very beautiful. I to work the seller in shop home appliances.
I the cheerful woman to like to go in for sports and do all what to like the usual person.
My history: we with my girlfriend were going to go in your country as tourists for search of men for serious the relation.
But my girlfriend could not go with me. But now I shall have the visa in 7 days for your country.
I to not want to waste time.
I now in Moscow also wait for reception of my visa. To me would give advice that
I to search the man through the Internet.
I will think to you important to know where I to take yours e-mail.
I was registered in agency of acquaintances and to me to give yours e-mail the address.
If you to want I shall speak with me is glad dialogue with you.
And it is possible we a meeting in 7 days because I can arrive to you.
Please tell to me about itself! About your city! There was to me a photo!
I shall send you a photo of me in the following letter.
I shall wait your answer.
Write to me on e-mail : tanya_####dogbk.ru
Yours faithfully Tatyana


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  26th Oct '07 11:55 PM

Some bloke pretending to be a Tatyana wrote:


Hello man!
Yo dude! Have we met?

It is a lot of men in Russia to drink alcohol much it to not like I
What's wrong with that? *hic* plenty of drinking bussies for me!

In Russia it is not possible to live easy.
I'll drink to that!

I live in city Yoshkar-Ola it is 1000 km from capital Russia Moscow.

Muahahaha, I've even heard of this place the source of 99% of Russian Bride scams, I'm told


I to not want to waste time.
Great! Nothing worse than beating about the bush. Dive right in, I say


My history: we with my girlfriend were going to go in your country as tourists for search of men for serious the relation.
You have a girlfriend? I'm all ears

I was registered in agency of acquaintances and to me to give yours e-mail the address.
Ah, I was wondering where to you gave mines e-mail the address...

And it is possible we a meeting in 7 days because I can arrive to you.
If your girlfriend's there with you I can get there quicker than 7 days

Please tell to me about itself! About your city! There was to me a photo!
Why was there no photo to me?? Tell to you about my city? You probably know more about it than me, dear. What you think, should I tell to her about itself?

I shall send you a photo of me in the following letter.
You better be less than fully clothed, or I ain't interested luv



To ease the tension while we wait to hear our fate, I intend to have a wee chat with Tatyana. Naturally, it will all be posted in here, pictures and all It might even come with a little 'send an email to Tatyana' page that will let you send your greetings directly to of on by up down her address of electronical mail But for that you have to ask to me kindsomely


One day I will work out how to make an open mailbox, listserve-style, on which I will make a fortune from having hilarious conversations with scammers - for all to read on the modern marvel that is the Internet.

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  30th Oct '07 7:41 AM

bobs12, desperate to find another Russian woman, wrote:

Dear Tatyana,

I am so terribly sorry that I have taken so long to write back to you. I was extremely busy with yacht sales - lots of paperwork, lots of phonecalls etc. etc. Now I have a rest for a few days.

Are you still in Moscow? Where are you staying? Surely that must be a very expensive and dangerous place for you to stay? Have you received your visa yet? Do you really plan to come to visit me? How long do you plan to stay?

I am sorry for all the questions. I did not expect your email - in fact I almost deleted it! That would have been terrible! I haven't been getting any for weeks and I'm climbing the walls. Which is why I was so excited to receive your email. I'm absolutely gagging for it.

My city is very beautiful. It has lots of rivers and canals and beautiful architecture. Please tell me more about Yoshkar Ola? It can't be so far away, surely.

Yes, please send me your photo. I will be waiting for it. Tell me more about yourself? Have you ever been married? Do you have lots of girlfriends? Why is it so hard to live in Russia? I'm sure it is easier to live here. But here the men are also drinking a lot of alcohol. In fact, our countries sound quite similar. I know nothing about Russia though, it must be a very beautiful place.

I must go now - a customer is calling about a schooner. Please write back soon,

Waiting for your reply,

Robert



Some bloke, pretending to be a Tatyana wrote:

Hello my dear friend Robert!!!
How are you? I hope that all perfectly. I am very glad to receive
your letter and to see that you really to be interested in my first letter.
Really it is very interesting to me to learn you more.
I would like to tell to you about that I really lonely woman and I
very much would like to have acquaintance man for serious relations.
For this purpose I addressed in agency of acquaintances and gave
them my letter. To me have told that I can really find man through their
agency and they allowed me some e-mails. I choosed yours and it's
very pleasant for me that you answered for my letter. I hope that we can
learn more about each other. I'm understand that you is interesting
where I took yours e-mail, but now I can not tell you it precisely
because I not have contact with travel agency, and agency in
Yoshkar-Ola, and I'm in Moscow now, and I can receive the
visa. It's good for you? What do you think?
I want to have acquaintance with good man very much.
I have some questions for you.
How there is your life? In what city do you live??? How old are you???
What you to think about our meeting? Would you like that I can arrive to
you during a week?
I wish you good day and success.
I wait for your letter.
Yours friend Tatyana

Some bloke dressed up as Tatyana



I can't tell you all how excited I was to receive such a long email from mys friend Tatyana within the record time of about three minutes. The poor girl must be waiting all alone in Moscow, just praying for my next letter to land in her inbox.

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  31st Oct '07 11:04 AM

And so it did, along with a fake .jpg attachment that won't open (supposedly a pic of yours truly)

Poor, desperate bobs12 wrote:

Tatyana! You must be the most beautiful woman I have seen in my life! Can you send me more pictures?

I can't believe that you are lonely, that is terrible. What is wrong with men in your country?

I think it's wonderful, especially in spring. But you should know that it's very cold at this time of day, and you need to bring warm clothes. I can take a week off work to bone you, is that okay?

Maybe it is better if I come to Moscow for our boning session? It will be very expensive for you to come here. It is no problem for me to travel. I can be boning you in a few days. It's good for you? What do you think?

Please reply soon, I need to make arrangements.

Waiting nervously for your reply,

Robert





Boris, pretending to be Tatyana wrote:

Hello Dear Robert!!!
How are you? I hope, that all good.
It is pleasant for me to receive your answer.
Thanks you. It's very important for me!!!
Dear, I am pleased if you also want our meeting.
I will be happy to arrive to you!
I was in embassy and ambassador has informed me that on November, 5
I will receive my visa of visitor. After reception of the visa I can fly to UK.
But we should discuss some things before our meeting. It so???
For example: what dates it is better for our meeting. I can arrive already
on November, 6-7. It is good for you? These dates the most comfortable for me.
I have money for purchase of the ticket.
I have holiday from my work. I can stay with you for 2 months.
What you think of it???
I will be happy stay together with you. We will learn each other better.
If you want, that I stay in your house I will be glad to this very much.
It will be more economic for me.
Ok, on November, 5 I will receive the visa and can fly to UK.
Well, I wait your answers to my questions and we may plan our meeting.

Also, I can buy the ticket in 2 ends, but for purchase of the ticket
I should know date of return flight.
You inform time how many want that I remained together with you?

Ok, write to me more ideas about our meeting. Ask me all questions which you want.
Also send more than your photos if it probably. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
I send some photo of me. I wait with impatience of your fast answer.

Yours Tatyana



Already impatient of my fast answer, eh? Heh heh, we'll keep her waiting a bit longer this time. I have yachts to sell

Note that she's already planning to move in with me. This will be convenient for boning.

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  31st Oct '07 11:33 AM

bobs12 wrote:


Ok, on November, 5 I will receive the visa
Also, I can buy the ticket in 2 ends



So, she'll be getting the tickets on November 5th. That's convenient because she won't be at work, as the public holiday in Russia means no-one will be working, including the British embassy.

Watch it, she wants to get you from both ends.

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  31st Oct '07 11:43 AM

Muahaha...

Were she real, she'd be getting it from both ends instead

Stay tuned, more to follow...

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  1st Nov '07 10:17 AM

It keeps getting better. Filled with lust and hormones, I decide that I'm not waiting for her to get a visa - I'm going to Moscow instead.

bobs12, pretending to be an eccentric millionaire wrote:

Dearest Tatyana,

I apologise again that I have taken so long to reply. I have submitted my documents to the embassy and will have a visa in a few days.

Where will I meet you? We can come back here together, it will be easier. I will buy tickets tomorrow. I have arranged for a week off work.

Is everything okay in Moscow?

Write soon,

Robert



However, like a typical stubborn Tatyana, she's having none of that, and predictably doesn't even pay any attention to what I've said.

Boris, still pretending to be a Tatyana wrote:

Hello Lovely Robert!!!
I'm very glad to receive your letter. Thanks you.
It's very important for me. Yes, I will arrive to you and now I know
airport when I should fly. Ok!!!
Lovely, we should learn more about each other.
But, I think also that 1000 letters can not replace 1 meeting. I'm right?
We will think about New Year when I will arrive to you. OK????
I will buy the ticket of the plane with adjustable
date of return flight from UK to Russia and
I can take flight from UK to Russia at any time.
I freely can move over territories of UK and
if we will decide to take trip far from city
I will be happy to go everywhere where you will take me.
For me it is interesting to look beautiful places of your country.
UK and Russia have set of distinctions.
I think that I will be under constant impression as the small child.
I'm sociable woman with easy character and outlook on life.
I love the noisy companies, but also like to be on a nature.
I think that you have many beautiful places there.
After reception of the visa I will buy the ticket of the plane.
When I will have the ticket of the plane
I will inform the full information of my flight.
I will inform you number of flight and an arrival time.
What we still should discuss before our meeting?
I think that we will not have problems that learn each other at the airport,
but please send to me any photos if you can. PLEASE!!!
I am happy that we will together soon. Inform more ideas for our meeting.
I am excited our meeting very much and I wait with impatience of the moment
of our first meeting. Ok, write to me few the information on you.
I think about our meeting constantly.
Tatyana



this is all building up to a tension-filled finale next week. Only I know how funny it's going to be

Yes, I will arrive to you and now I know
airport when I should fly.

Not only is she hot, she's also telepathic

I will be happy to go everywhere where you will take me.
I will be happy to take you anywhere.

UK and Russia have set of distinctions.
You bet, honey.

I think that I will be under constant impression as the small child.
What are you trying to say? I ain't no paedo! The charges were dropped!!

I'm sociable woman with easy character and outlook on life.
Damn right you are, you're planning to come and live with a guy you've never even seen

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  1st Nov '07 12:21 PM

D'ya know what bobs12... I have this horrible but funny feeling that somewhere in this world there may some transvestite 'vebmeister' who is sitting quietly tee-hee-ing to himself as he publishes YOUR replies on his very own website...

I may be wrong - it's just a thought... But perhaps we should do a web search this very minute!!....

Hey!! Guess what I found!!!??? Go here :-

http://spameater.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html

It's some Hispanic dude who has already 'scammed a scammer' just like you.... The letters he received are identical - but his bird was called "Vera"...... It's a small old world....

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  1st Nov '07 12:28 PM

Funnily enough, yep

The way they do this stuff is just copy-paste, copy-paste The original email came to me with about twenty other email addresses all starting with 'Robertdog' etc. etc.

Ed even has a site which is roughly about the same thing.

What amazes me though is that some guys actually get sucked into such a crude hoax

The transvestite websmeister is welcome to post my emails I just sent him/her, er, it a couple of photos of Ingvar Kamprad Heh heh.

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  1st Nov '07 12:44 PM

As you know - it's all about the numbers game. There's a sucker born every minute.... an' all you've gotta do is find him...

But these most recent revelations leave me quite forlorn... Like Christmas as a child, I was SO hoping it was real....

(Well, we DO need an excuse for a p*ss-up.....)

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  1st Nov '07 5:45 PM

The exchange goes on

bobs12, gradually becoming more excited wrote:

Tatyana, dearest,

Do please keep sending me your lovely pictures, you've got great knockers. Look after those, I have plans for them. Do you have any pictures with fewer clothes on? Of course, if I'm going to be boning you for 2 months, I ought to know what's going underneath all that denim, correct?

So, it seems just as well you ignored my last email about the visa. The commie bastards now tell me it will take 10 days to process my visa, by which time you'll have gone off to knob an airport security guard. That means it's all up to you now, my fine little bit of totty. I'm so glad you know what you're doing, where to go, etc, because I don't remember writing any of that information to you. It's terribly easy to forget things at my age though. That reminds me, I heard Viagra is cheaper in Russia, can you bring enough for two months? You can stay longer if you're good, but I don't want no second-class ho's hanging around.

It's not long now until you receive your visa, I hope you won't have any problems, like public holidays? How will we find each other at the airport? I'll be wearing a trilby hat, woolen scarf, dark glasses and a black trenchcoat. What will you be wearing? Do you have enough clothes to last all this time in Monte Carlo? What is the weather like on your mountian? I hope this letter finds you well, it really would be a shame if you caught SARS before the plane left, and they quarantined you and had to humanely destroy you. I would miss out on a whole lot of boning.

I am enclosing more pictures this time. Since your agency already told you all about me, I hope you won't be surprised to see that I am greying a little and slightly worn around the edges. Nonetheless, I'm still fighting fit and well up for a good old-fashioned boning session with a bit of Russki skirt. Heigh-ho, as they say!

Do write soon and tell me some more stories. Please send some nudie pics of yourself. I can hardly contain my excitement!

See you soon!

Yours truly,

Robert

Ps - the picture is of me giving a lecture this summer at university.




The reply is priceless

A slightly deranged scammer wrote:

Hello Dear Robert!!!
I am very glad, that our relations have development.
It is very good. I am very glad, that we will have a meeting.
We will know about the each other at our meeting.
I am glad, that now we have our relations!!!
Sorry, but I made mistake about New Zealand. I will arrive to you in UK!!!
You know, that I want serious relations. I want man who will love and respect me.
I not search rich or poor. The age, beauty and race does not matter for me.
The main for me it's HEART and SOUL of man. I hope that you understand me.
Ok, I wish to tell to you more about my life.
My parents - Ekaterina and Aleksandr. I have no any brothers and
sisters. My parents were good pair, but 10,5 years back they have divorced.
It was because of that, about my father earned very few money.
He might not provide me and my mum. Now I live together with my mum.
I very much love my parents. I love my daddy. He very good person.
I do not blame him. Life very difficult thing.
The fate smiles to someone, and to someone is not present.
He very much loves me, and I love him.
I rather high girl. My measurements: 32B-27-35, height: 5'4", weight: 115 lbs
For me height does not matter. The person may
be 2.00, but his heart will be empty and cold. I think, that it so.
Many russian women do not want to have the relation with russian
men because they drink very, very much. It is one reason.
Russia very unstable country. I can not know, that will take place tomorrow.
I can not give birth to children in Russia. I can not educate them education and put
on legs. You should understand me. In Russia very kind people. But in
Russia very bad politics. Here do not look at people. It is not
important for a politics.
I work as adviser on sale home appliances in city Yoshkar-Ola.
I was never marry. And I have no any children. Do you want chidren???
I can drink , but I do no become drunk. These are genes from mum.
I also have genes from my father. It's autos. I very much like
to go. I love speed. This my hobby. I love it very much.
I hope, that my the letter will not change your feeling to me
I very much wait our meeting.

Yours Tanya



Sorry, but I made mistake about New Zealand. I will arrive to you in UK!!!
WTF?!

The main for me it's HEART and SOUL of man.
Brilliant! You want to tear out my heart and burn my soul in hell

I rather high girl. My measurements: 32B-27-35, height: 5'4", weight: 115 lbs
For me height does not matter. The person may
be 2.00, but his heart will be empty and cold.

You're definitely high on something, girl.

Many russian women do not want to have the relation with russian
men because they drink very, very much. It is one reason.



I can not give birth to children in Russia. I can not educate them education and put
on legs.

Neither can I love one part is biologically impossible (not only in Russia) - about education, I hear ya - as for putting on legs, er...

I love speed. This my hobby. I love it very much.
That explains a lot I thought drugs were an addiction, not a hobby?

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  1st Nov '07 7:57 PM

Mad bobs12, all aquiver with excitement wrote:

My dearest Tatyana,

I am so very worried about you all alone in Madrid. The tension seems to have been compounded by your speed addiction to result in overall incoherence. I do hope you will be able to find me in the UK, because I'm damn sure it won't be easy. Perhaps you should just come and meet me in St. Petersburg instead? It's a very nice city. What about it? Where are your parents now? Do they know that you are planning to visit an insane geriatric millionaire and be boned by him for two months? I must warn, although I look a bit old and doddery, I am in fantastic shape and will give you a run for your money.

Speaking of running, what's the next move? Do we just sit and wait now, until you get your ticket? Have you already bought a ticket to New Zealand? Why? Your dimensions seem entirely satisfactory. I am digging an appropriately-sized hole in the back garden right now. It's almost finished. I can't wait. You shouldn't chide the Leprechauns, it's not their fault that the Wombles disappeared from Wimbledon Green. May I assume that you are totally horsed on speed? Watch you don't get arrested by luminous yellow militsia in Moscow. Do you read much? Do oyu watch TV? What is your favourite film? What is your favourite position?

I don't think it's a good idea to talk too much now. We should meet first, perhaps in Amsterdam, before taking the train to Uruguay, where we may partake of the finest narcotics known to zebra. I have heard that Iceland is planning to declare war on the US. What is your stance on world politics?

I must retire now, I do hope you are well. Have a good night's rest - you have some testing times ahead of you.

Waiting for you with open arms,

Robert



To which I received a bizarrely enthusiastic (speed-fuelled, no doubt) reply:


Some mad guy calling himself Tatyana wrote:

Hello My Lovely Robert!!!
How are you today??? I hope that all good for you. I'm good too.
I miss you and I wait our meeting very much. I like yours letter VERY
MUCH!!!! You very kind man with great HEART!!!!!!! Thanks you!!!!!!!!!
Dear, some days ago I received your letter. Now I'm very glad that we have relations with you!!!
I'm very glad!!!! Very soon we will be together with you!!!! I can not
wait till our meeting.
I want to tell about Moscow. It's very BIG city My city very small, but beauty.
Sometimes I am afraid to lose the way in Moscow
I walk here all the day long. I like it!!! I love nature as a whole.
My mum knows about my trip. She was very bad when learned about that
my trip maybe will be cancel. But now she is happy. She has told that I should search for the happiness.
I hope that I have found happiness with you already. It so?
I have no my own phone now. I'm in Moscow. I can call to you through telegraph. I will try...
I have higher education for economic. I think that it well.
I live together with my mum. She is pensioner. Her life is boring and monotonous.
I love my mum and always I listen to her advice. It is important for me!!!
My full name Tatyana Shamsulina. I was born in Yoshkar-Ola, 13.03.1981
All of my pictures were made by my girlfriend. She is professional photographer.
She speaks that I can pose for fashionable magazines
But I do not want it. I want a quiet life with my Lovely Man!!!
Russian men drink very much. They are not reliable!!!
From me they want only sex. They do not want family!!!
But family is very important for me!!!!!!!!!!! I hope that you understand me!!!
I want man who will love and respect me!!!!!!!!!! Only this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like autos so much!!! I like drive. I have the license of the driver in Russia.
Ok, Dear, I hope that you like my letter.
I will wait you today!!!

Yours Tanya



Now, I wonder if the reference to her mum means that I've passed the number of emails required for them to actually start reading, or at least skimming through, what I write. So I'll be a bit less tongue in cheek from here on in

I walk here all the day long. I like it!!! I love nature as a whole.
Moscow? Nature? Ah, you're a naturist? Nice! I look forward to seeing you wander around in the scud

Russian men drink very much. They are not reliable!!!
Does six beers a night and twelve at weekends count as "too much"?

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 Obviously a fraud 14th Nov '07 10:30 AM

Quote: it's not their fault that the Wombles disappeared from Wimbledon Green

This guy's obviously a complete cad and bounder. Any real Brit should know it is Wimbledon Common.
Own up, Bobs12, this whole site is a front for a white slave trading enterprise!

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  14th Nov '07 1:35 PM

We think that those emails are sent by "Olgabots"

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  14th Nov '07 9:07 PM

Ach! He's frae Scotloond,,, They dinnae knae oot aboot Tobermorey...

(Och! - You'll be thinking me rude - Apologies for the poorly-transliterated accent bobs12)

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  14th Nov '07 9:09 PM

... and a "See-yoo Jimmae!" - (with a "Nonny-nonny-no....)

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 Hi Bobs12 Tatyanas friend 29th Nov '07 9:09 PM

Hey Bob, what a great laugh. I am apparently in contact with the same 'lady' tatyana. I have gone through the same crap letters as you received, but am having a great time. Was your Tatyana a blonde with the best tits in the world ? Apparently there is a brunette scammer using the same name. Dont they have too many names to pick from in Moscow ?
Anyway, things are starting to hot up. The latest is that she has her visa for Australia and has paid the 'guarante'(sic) but that has left her short about $aud1200. I thought I might scam the scammer so offered to send her the money. But of course she would not accept it as she has such high morals. As a solution I suggested she send some pics and I would pay for them $25 for pretty $50 for sexy. $75 for Very hot and $100 for my eyes only. Anything to help the poor girl out of a bind !!!
But she has found a solution. Her uncle will pay the money but he lives in new zealand. He lives 350 km from the city ( NZ is only about 200 km long in total) where the nearest Western union office is. So she has asked that I set up a bank account so he can tfr direct to me and I can send it to her. Clever little girl. Sounds reasonable to me. I forgot to tell her that dear uncle could just buy the ticket online for her. But she is so desperately in love with me that she is not thinking straight.
She askrd me to send a picture of me wearing what I would meet her in. I said I had a stylish pinstripe suit. So I sent her a pic of some 'pinstripes" !!! Funny... No response
I didnt get a response to my querie as to whether she and her mum did a double act. But she is probably just asking mum !!
Anyway, she arrives on this Sunday all wet and trembling to get at her. Would you like me to keep you up to speed ?
cheers
Mike

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  29th Nov '07 10:44 PM

Definitely!

Sounds like you're having more luck with the little lady than me

I think I overdid it at an early stage

Asking you to set up a bank account?! That's a new one!

Keep us posted!

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  30th Nov '07 5:14 PM

The last email I sent 'her', to which I gont no reply... ...

bobs12, foaming at the mouth wrote:

Dearest Tatyana,

Do please be careful in Moscow, and don't get lost! Remember you have a plane to catch, and an elderly gentleman to delight for two months! It's a shame men only want you for sex, when you really want family. To be honest, that's all I want too. At my age, life's priorities take on a different perspective and family doesn't sound so much fun any more. I don't know how many 'goes' I have left in me. Don't forget the Viagra? Is it easy to buy in Moscow?

Don't worry about me being drunk. A few bottles of sherry is nothing for me. I also don't get drunk... or don't get sober... I forget which it is. Never mind, that's not important now that we have each other! Tell me more about Moscow and your mother's boring and monotonous life? Does it worry her that I might be older than she is, and will be boning her daughter rigid for two months?

I would also like to meet your girlfriend. Perhaps I should come to visit? It will only be a few more days before my visa is ready, and then we can have a great time together and you can show me Moscow. Tell me more about Moscow, it must be a very fascinating, but dangerous city? Why don't you pose for fashionable magazines? You could be a decent page-three girl with those knockers of yours. Or on a greasy garage calendar? License of the driver is a great thing. Unfortunately mine was taken away many years ago when I lost the sight in my left eye and developed a nasty heart condition. I'm told that too much excitement could kill me. But what do doctors know! You're only as old as the woman you feel, so in a few days I'll be 26 again. Chortle chortle!

I am still waiting for some more pictures of you. I have printed them all out and distributed them to my friends, saying, "look what a beautiful woman is coming to reside with me for 60 days." 60 days sounds more than two months, of course. But not as long as the few days I have to wait for your arrival. Tell me exactly when you will arrive, what date, what flight, which airline - everything. I will make all the arrangements.

Waiting for your soonest reply,

Robert



I think that at that point, they started reading what I was writing

Not long after, though, I got another email from 'Guzel', with much the same headers, delivered to another visarus.co.uk email address (I use a catch-all address for the domain - it causes me lots of truble and I should stop doing it):

Some bloke pretending to be a Guzel wrote:

Hello! I ask you to not be surprised to my letter, I am very glad,
that I could find you. You are not familiar with you, but I want to be
presented. My name is Guzel, I which girl of 25 years, I was born on
June, 27, 1982 in city Kazan in Russia, my growth of 172 sm, my weight
of 64 kg. I investigated English language in institute, I studied
there as the architect, but have then connected the life with
Landscape designer. I write to you this letter in full despair. The
matter is that I have got acquainted with the man through the
Internet. I corresponded with him many months, we very well understood
each other, and during our dialogue became very much close people. I
have understood, that we need to receive a meeting, in fact, one real
meeting, can tell about the person, it is more than thousand letters.
I began to prepare for documents for departure Russia. While we
communicated, I saved money for travel. I worked much, I make
everything what to earn money for the trip. I went to the purpose, and
I her have achieved! But when I have written him that have invited me
in embassy, concerning consultation for reception of the visa. he has
told that all this was for him game. he received pleasure from
dialogue, but he did not think, that my intentions were very serious.
Then I have received the letter where he wrote " that him is very a
pity, he the married person and is happy in marriage ". When I have
written him a question why he so severely played with me. he has
ceased to write and began to ignore my letters which I wrote. I write
to you this letter, with hope that you will answer me! A problem that
in a week I shall receive the visa. I do not want to cancel trip from
for this cowardly loser. I not when was not abroad Russia, and it was
very pleasant for me to look your country. I want to tell to you, that
I have all necessary what to arrive to you to the country. Whether I
want ask you I can to make it?! The problem that under the plan I
should live in the house of "deceiver" I did not plan to remove a
hotel accommodation... But during last moment all has sharply changed.
But I cannot cancel trip. If I shall refuse trip my dream not when
does not become a reality. Now I very much want you can know to accept
me in the house? Or to hand over to me a room for a small payment....
I understand, that this offer can be very interesting and strange
simultaneously. But very much frequently, the life, brings to us
surprises which we simply do not wait. And now at us two such
surprise. My heart prompts me, that we could take pleasure in
dialogue, pleasantly spend. Together we could embellish our boring
life. Now I am in Moscow, I live here in cheap hotel as I have no
relatives in Moscow. This week I shall go to receive the visa. I very
strongly want, that you with understanding would consider my
situation. I want to look the world, and to see as people live, than
they are engaged. I shall be simply happy to get acquainted and arrive
to the person who has rescued me in such difficult situation. I want
to use one chance which was given to me with my destiny. And who
knows, this chance be given and to you can. I the usual woman which
have remained in private, with such big problem. I ask you to
understand my letter correctly, and to try enter my position. I shall
be very grateful to you, if you write to me the letter. I can send you
the picture, that you could see the woman which so has severely been
deceived. I was to be trusted, that you will not laugh on up to me. I
hope that you will correctly react to my unexpected letter!!! In fact
lives it is a strange piece, and not when you do not know, where you
will find, and where you will lose. That you would think of that that
I have arrived to you on a visit, I shall be very glad to receive from
you the letter. My address of e-mail ####rradogmail.ru. Yours
faithfully Guzel.

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 Tityana 2nd Dec '07 11:59 AM

Seems the little lady with the 'to die for tits' is swallowing the bait and falling in love with this old codger. What would you make of this ? No.... not the pic, the text. ( Dirty little boy !!!"

Hello my love.............. My life Mikey!!!
How are you???????
I hope that this week-end to come to an end and to have you very good mood..................... And all
approaches that we were together.
I very much hope, that all your letters which you to write to me, it is the
truth...................... And the present love........................ Love for ever.
My heart is really opened for you, and I am ready to do with you every minute that the nobility is
better than you.
I understand, that we have written already many letters............... And with everyone yours the
letter my love to you grows, and I thank the God that it to give me a meeting with you.
I understand that in Australia evening, and tomorrow there will be a Monday, and it means
that tomorrow we can solve our problem, and my uncle can transfer money for our meeting.
My day to pass very well today because it is the big holiday in Russia................... Today day of
elections in " the STATE DUMA of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION "
Today very borrowed day for many people in Russia, and is not very a pity to me that I can write
today much.
But I shall write not much more about my family.
As I already spoke, and sent you pictures my mother and sisters.................... And I shall tell to
you about it.
My mum very good person, all life mum tried to make our life with the sister very good.
It always gave us the love................ It was remarkable.
To my mum 52 years, but it looks very well, and is very young, I think because we
gave it the love
To my sister of 30 years in was in it to year............... I very much love the sister and we
are very similar.
It has the husband, and the son.................... He is my nephew. Very good boy.
I really hope that in the future we can go to Russia together and you will see all my
family........... But it will be in the future.
Many thanks for pictures................ This beach is fine................ I hope that
we can be there naked, perfectly.
I love you.................. And now it is important for me.
I to ask the God that all was good also our meeting became as a fairy
tale................. The fairy tale which became a reality.
I send millions kisses for you, and I wait Monday.................. It is the important day for us.
Millions kisses for you and all my love.
For ever yours Tatyana.

Damn... how do I upload a pic ????

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  2nd Dec '07 1:17 PM

Brilliant! It to yours is the license to be knobbing the Tatyana to the senslessness!

Email me the pic and I'll put it in the post for you (no file uploads on the forum - that's an invitation to hackers )

You going to give her some random bank details?

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  2nd Dec '07 1:30 PM

Captain Ozzie

I don't understand. How on earth can Tatyana be visiting you for a boning, when she is visiting me in a few days?

See http://russiandetective.forumup.org/viewtopic.php?p=15418&mforum=russiandetective#15418 for my story so far.

Sam

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  2nd Dec '07 5:56 PM

Hello slavering pervs...

Couldn't understand all the 'sexy nonsense' myself - but would like to point out that it was, indeed, a HOLIDAY in Russia today - but not due to "Today day of elections in the STATE DUMA of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION "....

Today day of.... Erm... SUNDAY..... an' I normally get a holiday then, anyway....

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  2nd Dec '07 7:03 PM

Two-timing hussie! Didn't take her long to get over me, obvoiusly! Grrrr

Or maybe there's more than one Tatyana with a special holiday on Sunday

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 Titiana 3rd Dec '07 12:04 PM

Sorry me old china. I didn't mean to move in on your gravy pot. Look, here's the deal. I've been looking with a twinkle in me old eye at her mum. Looks like she needs a little brightening up to me. Know what I mean. Mum's 52 and looking in need of a good root. And, well I would only admit it to my closest friends here but I am 63. So boning mum is a definite proposition. This is where you win Bob. I will tell Titiana that i really want to bonk her mum, which leaves the way open for a smooth operator like you to slide right in. ( Maybe I could have phrased that better. Been me chat Ruskies with too long. need i think English teacher show me speak exceptional.)
But mate, honestly. Do those tits look real to you? or you just driven totally crazy by command of the language.
BTW thanks for the link. Elenas Ruski models is a great site and sight. Leave the Oz chicks for dead.

Keep you posted. The next exciting episode is that Tityana's lovely 'uncle' in NZ is going to deposit $1200 to myMY account tomorrow. I AM confused. But this is Russia after all.
Your salivating oz mate

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  4th Dec '07 8:33 AM

You didn't happen to get your money today did you Ozzie?

The nutcase just sent me this:-

How are you????????
I hope that you well today and you very much to wait for my letter.
I only have not so good news, my uncle could not will translate money today.
Its bookkeeper has been borrowed today, and it simply had no opportunity to translate
money................. I very much hope that it can do it tomorrow.
It is very a pity to me, that I cannot write to you much, but I to try to save money.
Internet cafe to take it is a lot of money, and I cannot write the letter each time when I want.
But I very much love you, and I promise that all will be good.
Please to not worry, we shall be together................... I swear to you.
Millions kisses for you.

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  4th Dec '07 12:09 PM

Hilarious!! How come I didn't manage to get that far with her? Booo.... obviously I don't have the Ozzie charm!

I'll have Tanya though. Only problem is I need my uncle to send some money over for me. Can you open me a bank account Cap?

Keep 'em comin!

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  5th Dec '07 2:46 AM

Looks like our Russian friend has a new email address. One that Google doesn't return scam warnings for. Hopefully this thread will get indexed.

I'm a little suss that "Mr Adam George" doesn't speak English though. Maybe this is all just one big lie! lol

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Subject: Very very good news!!!!!
From: Tatyana-Shamsdogyandex.ru

Hello my love..................
How are you????????
I hope that all well today.
It is the best day today...................... It is fine day.
I have very good mood today because all well.
I have received the letter from my uncle and it has informed, that it could translate money, and now all is ready that you could receive this money.

Here the information in which you require to receive money.

Sender: MR ADAM GEORGE P
Description : For rent
Quantity: 1496.00$
BSB 032142
Acc# 287265

You should go to the Bank as soon as possible to receive money.
And then you can send me of money for the ticket.
My uncle sent not many additional money that I had money to live.
Please to remember that I am in Moscow, and I ask you to go to Bank as soon as possible and to
learn about money.

As soon as you will have money, you can send money to me through the Western Union.

Here the information on me:

1. My full name: SHAMSULINA TATYANA

2. My adres: RUSSIA, YOSHKAR-OLA, LENINA 19-64

I shall require.

1. Your full name????????
2. Your address of the sender?????
3. MTCN a code.

I hope, that all will be quickly and well.
And we shall together very soon.
I love you..................... I love all heart.
Millions kisses for you.
For ever yours Tatyana.

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  5th Dec '07 7:57 AM

Maybe I'm just slow and not quite focussing at 10am after not sleeping all night... what's she up to?

Obviously the address is fake - and a quick Google search brings it up as a street 'address' given by scammers as being in more than one town... Can I guess that the next move is...

a) Her 'uncle' unexpectedly dies in a freak yachting accident, leaving her stranded without money and needing you to send your own, or...

b) Mr Adam George exists somewhere in New Zealand, and is being told that you are her uncle... will theoretically actually send you money, which you should theoretically actually send to her? my head is spinning

Somebody please explain this hocus-pocus to a very tired bobs12

Don't worry - I'll make sure the thread gets picked up in Google - will change the title to grab attention and put a couple of links to it elsewhere

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  6th Dec '07 8:49 AM

This is hilarious!

Th"uncle" sent some money yesterday apparently. So I emailed our little Russian friend today and told her that hey guess what! Some money did appear in my babk today but the name and amount is slightly different.

I told her "There is one payment in the bank that I don't know about, but it is from "Mr Adam Grant" and the amount is $1427 so I don't think that is from your uncle."

lol

She has absolutely flipped.

---------------------------------
My love Sam!!!!!!!
Are you there?????????
Please write me that happined????????
You went to the bank, the uncle has told that money already in your Bank.
Please go to Bank to receive money.
I am very worry.
I think, that it and is money from my uncle.
Therefore. That it has told that money its bookkeeper most likely will send.
You understand it???????
Please to go and take away this money.
I wait for your letter.
You can go to Bank right now??????
Tatyana.
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I'll play along with "no, I really don't think this is your money. I don't know who it belongs to, but I will have to wait for a deposit from Adam George".

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  7th Dec '07 3:46 PM

Well, it looks like I wont be getting a Christmas Card from "Tatyana".

I told her that I didn't think the money was from her "uncle" because the name was a bit different. Today I told her sorry but I took her money to the horses to see if I could win her some more, but I lost the lot!

She replied, but this time without all the love and kisses. lol

I'll give her the link to this thread, so he/she/it??? can see just how stupid she is.

There endeth my russian scammer idiot fun, for now.

Sam

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  7th Dec '07 3:53 PM

Excellent!

Send me pictures, I will post them

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  7th Dec '07 3:58 PM

What was her last reply? Go on, drag it out a bit longer

I always wanted to either get a scammer to wire me money, or tell them that I'd sent them money, but it had to be picked up from a specific Western Union office (like in Moscow or somewhere equally arseholeish to get to).

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  8th Dec '07 1:28 PM

She just keeps asking for the money now, calling me a thief. lol

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  8th Dec '07 4:48 PM

I'm assuming nobody actually sent you any money?!?!!

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 Tityana 11th Dec '07 7:49 AM

Now listen guys, you need to be a tad shrude here. This is where I am up to with Tatyana of the fabulous t... eyes !!
Yep, I set up a bank account as requested. Sure enough a couple of days later $AUD1475.00 appears as if by magic from her dear and very generous uncle. So, I just waited until it cleared ( All the while expressing my eternal undying love of this beautiful girl and her uncle) Then I just went and withdrew the money. No problems.
I think that the way the scam works is that there is some poor horny bloke in NZ (Probably married) who cannot send her the dough by direct transfer (Wives get a bit touchy about dad sending large amounts of cash to a 26 year old in Moscow) So the poor fellow draws it out of his account in cash at an ATM. But his limit is $500 per day. Too slow says Tats, so he offers to do a transfer Westpac to Westpac bank. Tats says to send it to her dear frail uncle in Australia and he will send it on to her.
So, now I have the cash, and if she wants it she may have to prove a few things because I am becoming just slightly suspicious. I have asked her for a high quality picture of herself holding her open passport in one hand and her Australian visa in the other hand. Up close so that I can read the details. And here is the master stroke. I have told her that I need her to write my name with marking pen on her left breast. !!!!! She has said that she is off to the photographer. Nice girl my Tatyana !!!

If she comes up with the required photo ( It is really just the "Scam the Scammer" trophy) then, being the wonderful person that I am I will offer to purchase her ticket online so that she can just pick up her eticket at the airport as she rushes hot and wet into my tired old arms.

What would you guess are the chances of the ticket being at the airport ???? But the trip to the airport will be good for her.

By the way, I reported the incident to both the Australian federal and state police just to cover my ass. Surprise, surprise they were not interested in investigating the matter.
I will keep you posted.

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  11th Dec '07 8:09 AM

WTF?!

There is a Russian police dept. for this stuff - may be worth contacting.

Oh... send me the pic with your name on her left breast.... that will be hilarious! Up on the forum for all to see!

That has all gotten soo much more complicated than the plain old "western onion" scam!

Can you contact the 'Uncle'? This is pretty insane!

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  11th Dec '07 8:37 AM

[url]http://www.419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm[/url]

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 Tityana 11th Dec '07 9:08 AM

I have contacted the Ozzie Federal & State police. All they can do is an "intelligence" report to Interpol who then "maybe contact the Ruskies. They were seriously disinterested although they are aware of the scam.

A guy in Sydney has pushed pretty hard and the Russian police have recently arrested ONE couple. They have been running this scam for 2 years. Apparently they have ripped off 1500 men for $US 1.5 Mil. There are about 10 sites which offer blacklists of scammers. Each has 1000-2000 'ladies' on file. It is huge, which is why it is a triumph to " Scam the scammer"
I am intrigued by the cultural differences between countries. Seems that the Russians are extremely generous. I am an old guy of 62, my friends reckon I am as ugly as "a hat full of assholes". Yet here we have this 26y/o beautiful lady, who does not know me, sending me extraordinary pics AND money. Just imagine what she would do if she knew me ?
But I must admit to being just slightly concerned. I have a yacht at the local marina. My neighbours are good blokes so I told them what had happened. They have each asked that their yachts be relocated. Seems that they are worried that those Sam Missiles are not all that accurate.

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  11th Dec '07 9:35 AM

Nothing to worry about